March Kicks Off Our Spring Campaign- Donate Now to Support Forecasting

Observation: Talking Mountain Cirque

Observation Date
3/11/2025
Observer Name
Garcia
Region
Moab » Gold Basin » Talking Mountain Cirque
Location Name or Route
Gold Basin to Talking Mountain Cirque
Weather
Sky
Scattered
Wind Direction
Southwest
Wind Speed
Light
Weather Comments
More sunshine than expected today. No wet activity observed. Winds were light in the valley bottoms, from the sound of it, they were blowing harder on the ridge lines. No snow transport observed.
Snow Characteristics
Snow Surface Conditions
Powder
Wind Crust
Melt-Freeze Crust
Damp
Snow Characteristics Comments
Low angle northerlies still have soft snow, even on some exposed slopes. However, many northerlies have been hit by the wind and are variable.
Red Flags
Red Flags
Poor Snowpack Structure
Avalanche Problem #1
Problem
Persistent Weak Layer
Trend
Same
Problem #1 Comments
On a north facing slope at 10,780' I got ECTP 29 down 65cm on 2mm rounding facets with F+ density. This is a stubborn test result, but F+ hardness beneath all of the snow that fell since 2/14 is alarming. The poor structure is obvious in the photo below.
On a NE facing slope at 10,800' in the same area, I found a slightly thicker slab. The weak layer is buried deeper beneath the surface and produced ECTX x2. A Deep Tap test scored DT27 RP (resistant planar) down 60cm on 1.5mm rounding facets with F+ density. This is a stubborn result for a Deep Tap test. A PST (propagation saw test) scored PST 39/100 END down 60cm on the same layer of rounding facets. The weak layer was hard to trigger on this slope, most likely because of the thick 1F slab on top, but the PST result tells us that if triggered, this structure will propagate a failure and produce a slab avalanche. As we know, the snowpack is far from uniform across a slope; it is possible to trigger this weak layer anywhere the slab is thinner or softer. This is not a set up I am willing to trust my life with.
A key point to remember is that for much of the season the snowpack has been very shallow. Shallow snow is weak snow. The faceted layers have remained weak all season long. Typically by this time of year, we have a deeper snowpack and the facets have had a chance to gain some strength. This is not a typical winter. The weak layers need more time to gain strength.
Today's Observed Danger Rating
Moderate
Tomorrows Estimated Danger Rating
Moderate
Coordinates