Observation: No No Name

Observation Date
1/20/2014
Observer Name
Hardesty
Region
Salt Lake » Park City Ridgeline » No No Name
Location Name or Route
No No Name
Weather
Weather Comments
Weather: as you see above - None. See photo, below.
Snow Characteristics
Snow Surface Conditions
Dense Loose
Faceted Loose
Wind Crust
Melt-Freeze Crust
Rain-Rime Crust
Damp
Snow Characteristics Comments

This is more of a weather observation photo. Blue sky. But more to the point - what you DON'T see there in the sky, trailing behind the commercial jet is any semblance of a contrail....that classic white line of stirred up water vapor that is a tell-tale sign of moisture in the atmosphere (ie-cirrus/mare's tails) that may portend a storm. Garage meteorology, I know, but...worth pointing out sometimes what you don't see.

Snow surface conditions consisted of soft and hard melt-freeze crusts, recrystalized powder, surface hoar, decomposing wind slab, rime crust, you name it. Yep, checked 'em all but the first one-powder.

Red Flags
Red Flags
Recent Avalanches
Rapid Warming
Poor Snowpack Structure
Red Flags Comments
Agenda was to look at Saturday's snowmobile triggered avalanche in No-No Name bowl along the Park City ridgeline. The slide was remotely triggered from likely 300' away and well below the crown. It was on a steep east facing slope at about 9550'. I did not investigate the crown because of too much hangfire still above it. See the story below from years ago when forecasters Evelyn Lees and Craig Gordon went to investigate a crown in nearly the same place.
Comments

Top snow profile - boring...- shows 20cm of facets at the base of a 120cm snowpack that is representative of near the starting zone - No Results, even after more than 30 taps, the Wendy Wagner AK heel-drop boot test, and so on. Difficult to trigger an avalanche here. Lower profile - way more exciting - full propagation there on a 30cm 1-finger slab over 30cm of fist facets. 60cm total snowpack. This...or nearby....as shown in the photo below is most likely where the avalanche was triggered - there from below.

Video

Years ago, UAC forecasters Craig Gordon and Evelyn Lees went to investigate a similar avalanche in almost the same spot...They were accessing it from looker's right and determined that there was too much snow hanging above the avalanche (similar to today). While they were - as depicted by XX - they collapsed the slope and triggered a significantly larger avalanche that would not be characterized as just hangfire - there as shown in the photo under the blue line. Good judgement, good terrain selection.

Video

Interesting to note other terrain choices by a snowmobiler there beneath Scott Peak - perhaps the entirety of the snowpack was deep/thick enough to not trigger the slide (similar to the first snow profile noted, above).

This is what is difficult with both forecasting and go/no go choices in the backcountry these days - low probability/high consequence...and where is the trigger point? Thinner rocky spots - but sometimes it is difficult to tell where those may be. Perhaps at this week's Outdoor Retailer show they'll have some X-Ray goggles -

Cracking propagated 3-400' away through the slab -

Not the first time this path has run - trees offer a good clue to the past -

Today's Observed Danger Rating
Moderate
Tomorrows Estimated Danger Rating
Moderate
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