Two thin gray lines were immediately obvious when digging the quick pit below (new snow/old snow interface and below the snow we recieved in late November). This pit was in a very sheltered area, so surface snow was not slab like. In a wind drifted area, this would have been a different story. Odd loading patterns noted above could also mask some of these drifts. The rain/rime crust did not seem to be noticable enough at higher elevations to cap any of these weak layers.

As noted above, wind seemed to be out of a couple different directions (including east) producing odd loading patterns. This plus facets is problematic.