Blog: UAC Podcast - To Hell in a Heartbeat - A Conversation With Tom Diegel and Matt Clevenger About the 12.26.08 Full Burial on Little Water

Thursday, February 15, 2018


In this podcast, we discuss the full burial and save of Matt Clevenger on the day after Christmas, 2008, and the event re-enactment almost 10 years later that Clevenger and ski partner Tom Diegel participated in to create a four-minute education film, "To Hell in a Heartbeat." The short film has been viewed online nearly 3 million times and is widely considered to be one of the most impactful short avalanche videos to date. The full accident report can be found here.  

One of the interesting pieces of the conversation explores why, after such a traumatic experience, Matt agreed to be fully buried again in order to make the video. "I'm doing this as an education piece to give back to the community in the hopes that it will help save lives", Matt says. Even after ten years, the trauma from the event still keeps him awake at night sometimes, but it has not stopped him from continuing to enjoy backcountry skiing.  

We also talk to Diegel about what made this recovery particularly difficult and what prepared him to be successful in actual recovery situations. "We're fooling ourselves," Diegel said, "if we think that hiding a beacon in the leaves each fall or shallowly burying a beacon in a scuffed area adjacent to footprints in the snow will set us up for success. Hope is not a viable rescue strategy. You must be certain that you can pull off an effective rescue."  

Recent statistics show that nearly one-third of avalanche burials occur during uphill travel and having a backcountry partner is critically important in the event of burial. Diegel and Clevenger also reinforce the importance of communication in the broader context of decision-making for winter backcountry travel.

Matthew Clevenger. Born in Abilene, Tx 1960.  Matt started skiing at 16 in 1976 on a trip to Ruidoso, NM at what is now known as Ski Apache, owned and operated by the Apache nation who have no great affection for white folks from Texas. He skied though high school and the first few years of college at Texas A&M University. 

Matt moved to Utah with his partner, (Dr) Martha Glenn in 1997 when she was offered a job as an attending physician at the University of Utah in the Hematology Dept. Matt says it was on a tour from Cardiac Bowl into the upper reaches of Mill B South that a part that he had not known was missing was finally discovered and put into place in his life.  Beyond skiing, Matt's passions include rocky, skinny, remote single track packrafting and fly fishing, Matt works as a software engineer at a biotech firm.

Tom Diegel has been skiing for as long as he can remember and got his eyes opened about backcountry skiing long ago visiting Utah, eventually making it his home in 1999.  He’s been able to get lot of days in the backcountry, and as such has learned a fair bit about avalanches and himself, yet still feels like a student in both.  As vice president of the Wasatch Backcountry Alliance he’s also been a strong advocate for the preservation of the delicate balance of resort boundaries and backcountry terrain.  


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